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knezoskin (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
hmmm this is not what liberalism and conservatism means to me ;o
MindWarsMovie (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
- DHS? Isn't that the fox who guards the hen house? Also it is typical that you would not provide this yourself, but require us to do the legwork you claim to exist somewhere. It would be a waste of time to chase after data that might exist based on a rumor you have heard.
funkbrother216 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
......Whereas, subsidizing your income with food stamps or unemployment benefits helps you maximize and expediate your efforts toward being productive again. That ultimately helps us all. These programs are investments in people and the data shows a positive return on them.
funkbrother216 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
[when making broad statement "statistics show", reference where these statistics are published or risk giving the impression of making them up.]Go to any DHS and request a copy of those stats which support my claims. Also, these programs prevent financial hardship from creating a situation that prohibits recovery. If you lack money for both rent and food, having to sacrifice one for the other will impede on your ability to recover, prolonging the situation. cont...
MindWarsMovie (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
- when making broad statement "statistics show", reference where these statistics are published or risk giving the impression of making them up. We have personal knowledge of those who have been on public assistance for decades. We also can refer to decades of personal knowledge based on a close relative who was a social worker for the government for decades.
MindWarsMovie (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
- Thanks for the comments "Mr Crack Monster" ... As this film states, it is an overview. A "boiled down" look at political philosophies. Nothing was "left out" as it is meant to cover a big picture of a comparison of political philosophies. We are happy to see it did what it was meant to do - stimulate further inquiry.
crackmonster99 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
There's alot of information left out of this like how classical conservatives were primarily against industrialization & favored agriculture. The politics of the guilded age were unmentioned & how it gave rise to the robber barons & caused vast wealth gaps to appear. The severe lack of regulation causing corporations to run amuck & start their own towns in which employees lived and were defacto slaves due to them owing the companies so much. The original classical split is not covered at all.
funkbrother216 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Statistics show that the majority of people who are on those programs only collect benefits for an average of one year. I have never heard of a "safety" net being used to catch fish. You're talking about a different net.
MindWarsMovie (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
- This video is based on findings of terminology and definitions. There is nothing to conceal. You do not conceal anything either apparently. Once someone accepts this "safety net" you describe, it is a slippery slope and gives more incentive to stay in the net rather than cross that bridge. A net does truly catch things - like fish to be consumed. If you ever get caught in this net, you will also be consumed by bureaucracy. Space is so limited here - real examples abound!
MindWarsMovie (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
- What you describe of yourself is a Constitutional Conservative or a Reagan Conservative or even a Reagan Democrat to put it in late 20th century terminology. You are obviously not a modern liberal. Definitely not a marxist or progressive. You would fit in well calling what you believe you are as "liberal" if this was the mid 1870s. That is considered the "classical liberal" which only exists at that time period in history. Would you say you believe as Senator Maxine Waters? No way. |
